"It isn't important, I know, but I hate it when somebody has cheap suitcases. It sounds terrible to say it, but I can even get to hate somebody, just looking at them, if they have cheap suitcases with them" (108).
"Goddamn money. It always ends up making you blue as hell" (113).
"I mean you'd be different in some way–I can't explain what I mean. And even if I could, I'm not sure I'd feel like it" (122).
"I hope to hell when I do die somebody has the sense enough to just dump me in the river or something. Anything except sticking me in a goddamn cemetery. People coming and putting a bunch of flowers in your stomach on Sunday, and all that crap. Who wants flowers when you're dead? Nobody" (155).
Wednesday, April 8, 2015
Ch. 15-20
1.) "'Hey, I got a flit for you,' I told him. 'At the end of the bar. Don't look now. I've been saving him for ya." / "'Very funny,' he said. 'Same old Caulfield. When are you going to grow up?'" (144)
(!!) and then he continues trying to get Luce to talk about sex but he won't.
2.) I appreciated that Holden calls Luce out when he says his former girlfriend is "probably the whore of New Hampshire" (145). Really relevant given our discussions about whether or not Holden is a misogynist.
I think more than anything he's very black and white about things. There's that section in the beginning of Ch. 17 where he talks about girls & boys; I think that's relevant to this. And then of course how he views "childhood" vs "adulthood." And his fear of "flits." We could have a whole discussion about that one. Etc.
(!!) and then he continues trying to get Luce to talk about sex but he won't.
2.) I appreciated that Holden calls Luce out when he says his former girlfriend is "probably the whore of New Hampshire" (145). Really relevant given our discussions about whether or not Holden is a misogynist.
I think more than anything he's very black and white about things. There's that section in the beginning of Ch. 17 where he talks about girls & boys; I think that's relevant to this. And then of course how he views "childhood" vs "adulthood." And his fear of "flits." We could have a whole discussion about that one. Etc.
Tuesday, April 7, 2015
ch 15-20 lions
"I used to think she was quite intelligent, in my stupidity" 105, again stupid girls and stupid holden for not knowing girls are stupid
more self loathing when he talks about suitcases and nuns' breakfasts around 110
Holden's talk about the museum strikes crazy resemblance to our talk in class. He loves that the museum display cases never change, the only thing that changes is you. Like Sal reading catcher again 120 ish
"If you do something too good, then after awhile, if you don't watch it, you start showing off. And then you're not as good anymore" 126
"And all of a sudden, i did something I shouldntve. I laughed" 134
"when the hell are you going to grow up" 146
"WHo wants flowers when youre dead? Nobody." 155
more self loathing when he talks about suitcases and nuns' breakfasts around 110
Holden's talk about the museum strikes crazy resemblance to our talk in class. He loves that the museum display cases never change, the only thing that changes is you. Like Sal reading catcher again 120 ish
"If you do something too good, then after awhile, if you don't watch it, you start showing off. And then you're not as good anymore" 126
"And all of a sudden, i did something I shouldntve. I laughed" 134
"when the hell are you going to grow up" 146
"WHo wants flowers when youre dead? Nobody." 155
jay is bae
There are many lines I could post, but my favorite part of this book happens on the last page of 18 as Holden is discussing his feelings about war movies and books. He first mentions reading A Farewell to Arms (AFTA @mrskaprak #apeng) which is a book I love (miss you Fredrick Henry). Then he continues to say that he "was crazy about The Great Gatsby. Old Gatsby. Old sport." Then I turned on my TV (after completing all the reading of course) and what was on? None other that Gatsby (well, Leo <3 ) himself. Coincidence or Salinger's ghost??
-Old Sport
Monday, April 6, 2015
migs's post
Hi friends, so my account is working but anyway some of my favorite lines from these chapters are…
"Screwballs all over the place" (61)
"I was probably to most normal bastard in the whole goddamn place--and that isn't saying much" (62)
"I think if you don't really like a girl, you shouldn't horse around with her at all, and if you do like her, then you're supposed to like her face, and if you like her face, you ought to be careful about doing crumby stuff to it, like squirting water all over it. It's really too bad that so much crumby stuff is a lot of fun sometimes" (62)
"God, what a jerk I was" (102)
"The goddamn movies. They can ruin you. I'm not kidding" (104)
Okay, see you all soon
Migs
"Screwballs all over the place" (61)
"I was probably to most normal bastard in the whole goddamn place--and that isn't saying much" (62)
"I think if you don't really like a girl, you shouldn't horse around with her at all, and if you do like her, then you're supposed to like her face, and if you like her face, you ought to be careful about doing crumby stuff to it, like squirting water all over it. It's really too bad that so much crumby stuff is a lot of fun sometimes" (62)
"God, what a jerk I was" (102)
"The goddamn movies. They can ruin you. I'm not kidding" (104)
Okay, see you all soon
Migs
More Lines (10-14)
"It wasn't that I didn't use to take him with me when I went somewhere. I did. But that one day, I didn't" (129)
"Only, I wouldn't have the guts to do it. I'd just stand there, trying to look tough" (116)
"If you was a fish, Mother Nature'd take care of you, wouldn't she? Right?" (109)
"They can't just ignore the ice. They an't just ignore it" (108)
"New York's terrible when somebody laughs on the street very late at night. You can hear it for miles. It makes you feel so lonesome and depressed" (106)
"All you knew was you were happy. You really were" (103)
"That's the thing about girls. Every time they do something pretty, even if they're not much to look at, or even if they're sort of stupid, you fall half in love with them, and then you never know where you are. Girls. Jesus Christ. They can drive you crazy. They really can" (95)
"Only, I wouldn't have the guts to do it. I'd just stand there, trying to look tough" (116)
"If you was a fish, Mother Nature'd take care of you, wouldn't she? Right?" (109)
"They can't just ignore the ice. They an't just ignore it" (108)
"New York's terrible when somebody laughs on the street very late at night. You can hear it for miles. It makes you feel so lonesome and depressed" (106)
"All you knew was you were happy. You really were" (103)
"That's the thing about girls. Every time they do something pretty, even if they're not much to look at, or even if they're sort of stupid, you fall half in love with them, and then you never know where you are. Girls. Jesus Christ. They can drive you crazy. They really can" (95)
more lines
"She has this sort of red hair, a little bit like Allie's was, that's very short in summertime" (67).
"Some people you shouldn't kid, even if they deserve it" (74).
"I'd rather push a guy out a window or chop his head off with an ax than sock him in the jaw" (89-90)
"Some people you shouldn't kid, even if they deserve it" (74).
"I'd rather push a guy out a window or chop his head off with an ax than sock him in the jaw" (89-90)
Chp. 10-14 favorite lines
I think we're supposed to post also our favorite lines from Chp. 10-14? Anyway, here they are:
- "You could tell neither one of them wanted to look like the other one, and you couldn't blame them, but it was very amusing anyway" (96)
- "I don't exactly know what I mean by that, but I mean it" (104-105)
- "I think it's because sometimes when he plays, he sounds like the kind of guy that won't talk to you unless you're a big shot" (105)
- "He was one of those guys that think they're being a pansy if they don't break around forty of your fingers when they shake hands with you" (113)
- "I'd rather push a guy out the window or chop his head off with an ax than sock him in the jaw" (117)
Saturday, April 4, 2015
Chapter 10 phoebe
I was reading last night and phoebe at the beginning of chapter 10 really sticks out to me but I can't puty finger on it... Anyone else have thoughts? Just that both of Holden's siblings have red hair, and have their "roles" in the family seems significant to me. Then phoebe only writes about one character again and again. Also the relation of written word between the children, phoebe writes stories, the brother who died(name is escaping me) wrote poems, and Holden seems proficient at English because his only subject he's not failing is English plus his story. I'm just struggling to pinpoint the significance but I feel there is one, anyone have ideas??
Chp. 4-9 Lines
I liked these lines in particular:
- "I'm a pacifist, if you want to know the truth" (59)
- "Some stupid guy had thrown peanut shells all over the stairs, and I damn near broke my crazy neck" (68)
- "I just sort of sat and not did anything" (70)
- "Mothers are all slightly insane" (72)
Thursday, April 2, 2015
Cole's Ch. 4-9 observations
I noticed (and apparently did the first time I read Catcher, based on my margin notes), how much Holden talks about "watching" Stradlater. He watches him shave, watches him undress and "stroke his bare chest." (41) More than once he talks about how handsome he is, or what a "good build" (26) he has.
Just saying.
-Cole
Just saying.
-Cole
Lines
"All I need's an audience" (29)
"but he was a secret slob anyway" (27)
"Only very sexy stuff interested him" (32)
"What a school. You were always watching somebody cut their damn toenails or squeeze their pimples or something" (42)
"He was a fresh-air fiend" (49)
"That guy Morrow was about as sensitive as a god-damn toilet seat" (55"
Mothers are all slightly insane" (55)
"I Keep making up these sex rules for myself, and I break them right away" (63)
"but he was a secret slob anyway" (27)
"Only very sexy stuff interested him" (32)
"What a school. You were always watching somebody cut their damn toenails or squeeze their pimples or something" (42)
"He was a fresh-air fiend" (49)
"That guy Morrow was about as sensitive as a god-damn toilet seat" (55"
Mothers are all slightly insane" (55)
"I Keep making up these sex rules for myself, and I break them right away" (63)
lines
some of the lines that I liked were
"You remember I said before that Ackley was a slob inches personal habits? Well, so was Stradlater, but in a different way. Stradlater was more of a secret slob" (27).
"Stradlater was a very sexy bastard" (32).
"It made me too sad and lonesome" (51).
"One thing about packing depressed me a little" (51).
"You remember I said before that Ackley was a slob inches personal habits? Well, so was Stradlater, but in a different way. Stradlater was more of a secret slob" (27).
"Stradlater was a very sexy bastard" (32).
"It made me too sad and lonesome" (51).
"One thing about packing depressed me a little" (51).
Wednesday, April 1, 2015
Some Lines
A few of the lines I liked were
(chapter 6, pg. 53) "'You always do everything backasswards.' He looked at me. 'No wonder you're flunking the hell out of here,' he said. 'You don't do one damn thing the way you're supposed to. I mean it. Not one damn thing.'"
(chapter 5, pg.47) "I went over to my window and opened it and packed a snowball with my bare hands. The snow was very good for packing. I didn't throw it at anything, though."
(chapter 7, pg.62) "I felt so lonesome, all of a sudden. I almost wished I was dead."
(chapter 7, 67) "I could see my mother going in Spaulding's and asking the salesman a million dopy questions––and here I was getting the ax again. It made me feel pretty sad. She bought me the wrong kind of skates––I wanted racing skates and she bought hockey––but it made me sad anyway. Almost every time somebody gives me a present, it ends up making me sad."
I also really like the section on Allie because he is a character that has always really interested me.
(chapter 6, pg. 53) "'You always do everything backasswards.' He looked at me. 'No wonder you're flunking the hell out of here,' he said. 'You don't do one damn thing the way you're supposed to. I mean it. Not one damn thing.'"
(chapter 5, pg.47) "I went over to my window and opened it and packed a snowball with my bare hands. The snow was very good for packing. I didn't throw it at anything, though."
(chapter 7, pg.62) "I felt so lonesome, all of a sudden. I almost wished I was dead."
(chapter 7, 67) "I could see my mother going in Spaulding's and asking the salesman a million dopy questions––and here I was getting the ax again. It made me feel pretty sad. She bought me the wrong kind of skates––I wanted racing skates and she bought hockey––but it made me sad anyway. Almost every time somebody gives me a present, it ends up making me sad."
I also really like the section on Allie because he is a character that has always really interested me.
lines lines lines
Hi friends,
The line is "I did it to annoy Stradlater. It drove him crazy when you broke any rules. He never smoked in the dorm. It was only me."
I really like this line because it reminds of what siblings do to each other. Holden does this specifically just to irritate Stradlater and it reminds of me of the relationship that I have with my brother. A lot of the dialogue in this book makes it very relatable to teenage life and just this comment in general really made it that more believable.
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